Timeline for Let's talk about effort, shall we?
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| Jun 14, 2017 at 10:53 | comment | added | hBy2Py |
@Martin-マーチン Right, that's why I drew from PostsWithDeleted and checked for questions with either .ClosedDate or .DeletionDate as NOT NULL.
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| Jun 14, 2017 at 5:37 | comment | added | Martin - マーチン Mod | Just for the record: As far as I understood your answer, I disagree with it. I do not think that you can safe all 33% (or 50% if we take the old numbers) by editing them into a good (whatever that may mean) question, and I do not think that it would be beneficial in the first place. Re: the asker is willing to edit their question - that barely ever happens. In the last 14 days it was twice. If we do not close questions, we have no quality control. | |
| Jun 14, 2017 at 5:24 | comment | added | Martin - マーチン Mod | @hBy2Py A question with a score lower than 0 has an expiration date of 30 days. It'll be deleted by scripts. | |
| Jun 14, 2017 at 5:00 | comment | added | hBy2Py | (I think this ^^ might exclude users whose accounts have been deleted, though.) | |
| Jun 14, 2017 at 4:50 | comment | added | hBy2Py | Are there statistics available with 1-rep accounts with 1 question that is closed? I put together a SEDE query to investigate this. If my queries and interpretation are correct, about 24% of 1-rep users created more than 30 days ago with exactly 1 posted question have had that question closed/deleted (268 out of 1114). | |
| Jun 14, 2017 at 4:06 | comment | added | hBy2Py | A policy (separate from this discussion) on when the community should feel comfortable "hijacking" a low-quality question to improve it might be useful. E.g.: Any question with 0 score or less that has been untouched by OP for more than 30 days can be freely edited to improve it (say, to make it more consistent with an excellent answer posted). | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 14:25 | history | edited | user37142 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
trying to clarify my point
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| Jun 13, 2017 at 14:19 | comment | added | Pritt says Reinstate Monica | @orthocresol That seems to be a good idea! The question is good, so we edit it to make it better and it gets an answer! | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 12:16 | history | edited | user37142 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 13, 2017 at 10:54 | comment | added | orthocresol | Ah, I see what you mean. I agree, it is difficult to get these people to edit their questions. Back when I left comments on nearly every homework post telling people to include "effort", the success rate was <20%, and that's probably quite a generous estimate. However, we can always edit it for them into something more conceptual ourselves, especially if the question holds some promise. | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 10:53 | comment | added | user37142 | Yeah I know. I don't think generally hw-questions should be banned either, but Martin proposes a way to try to get people to write more conceptualized questions. I think you cannot achieve this with trying to communicate with the zero-effort-zombies since they are neither reading that nor are they the target audience for those concept-questions. | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 10:48 | comment | added | orthocresol | To be clear, I don't think we are trying to "solve the homework problem" in the sense of getting rid of HW. As you said, this will always happen, no matter what we do. I feel that it is more of an issue of what we do with it once it lands on our doorsteps. | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 10:37 | history | answered | user37142 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |