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    The five years for the US is post bachelors, not post masters.
    – Buffy
    Commented Mar 29 at 23:14
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    That is the max time. It isn't the average. The average would be more like 3 post masters. Some programs limit the time you can spend.
    – Buffy
    Commented Mar 29 at 23:23
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    It seems you have made your mind up on the answer already, and this is more of a rant... Commented Mar 29 at 23:35
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    No, that screed is not asking politely in a nice way.
    – Jon Custer
    Commented Mar 30 at 0:40
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    And your view of a PhD program seems very USA-centric. Most of your objections apply to every European program I know of.
    – Jon Custer
    Commented Mar 30 at 0:50