Timeline for Is it normal to let another person lead the writing of a project that you performed most of the analysis?
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| Aug 30, 2022 at 15:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1564629031986905091 | ||
| Aug 30, 2022 at 2:21 | answer | added | NovemberSierra | timeline score: 0 | |
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| Aug 29, 2022 at 17:43 | comment | added | Buffy | I'll note that doing it "quickly" serves her interests, but maybe not yours especially if she can take over first authorship. She would need to justify that. If she wants to do a lot of the writing, but leave you as first author then that issue goes away and is easier to justify the "speedy" request. Don't let yourself get abused here. The advice of @BryanKrause is good advice. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 17:34 | history | edited | shukurra | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 29, 2022 at 17:23 | comment | added | CommunityBot | Please clarify your specific problem or provide additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it's hard to tell exactly what you're asking. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 16:26 | comment | added | Bryan Krause♦ | @shukurra If it was your only paper I think it would certainly make sense both for your supervisor and for your own training that you insist to write all parts of a manuscript to get the experience. But you've described this as a bit of a "side project" where, even though you've led the effort, you have other efforts going on where you are doing more of the writing. In that context, it'd be okay to get help with the writing, I just don't think you should sacrifice earned authorship order for it. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 16:22 | comment | added | Buffy | Part of my reasoning is that there is (a lot of) value in having the best paper. Someone with a lot of writing experience is better able to produce that, other things being equal. I'm not putting value on being quick here, but only in being clear. But your point about getting experience is a good one. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 16:14 | comment | added | shukurra | That's a really good suggestion. It's just I am a student and may not have the "big picture". It's true that my colleague is a more experienced writer. But I feel you can't just let the best writer always be the writer and not give chances to inexperienced students to try due to urgency. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 16:07 | comment | added | Buffy | I suggest that you work out author order before anyone writes anything and, only, then decide who is best to write it up and how the others will contribute to that - revisions and such. My preference would be to let the best writer do the writing, though they need the time for it. But the writing isn't the main intellectual contribution. And, if you are in a situation where everyone contributes equally, then use something like alphabetical order or a clear statement in an acknowledgements paragraph. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:49 | answer | added | Bryan Krause♦ | timeline score: 6 | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:48 | comment | added | shukurra | I guess that the rule most people in my field follow. It's also how people in my lad determine the author rankings. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:46 | comment | added | Buffy | Why do you think that the act of actually writing down the results is so important in setting the first author. Authorship is more than about writing. Let the best writer be the writer and choose author order based on the research (intellectual) contribution. After all, you've tagged this collaboration, not competition. | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:40 | comment | added | shukurra | Yes, whoever writes the manuscript will be the first author. But I feel like I can be the co-first if my colleague lead the writing | |
| Aug 29, 2022 at 15:39 | comment | added | Bryan Krause♦ | Does this also mean that you would have been the first author on this manuscript, but if this colleague writes it up that they will be first author? | |
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| S Aug 29, 2022 at 15:37 | history | asked | shukurra | CC BY-SA 4.0 |