Timeline for Is there such a thing called native speaker bias when publishing?
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| Jan 16, 2014 at 13:16 | comment | added | posdef | @PeterJansson well, the basic assumption there would be that a native speaker is just as likely to submit a manuscript that is based on "bad/inadequate science" as a non-native speaker. Thus if you look at a large enough number of submissions, if the percentage of acceptance differ significantly then you might start speculating whether or not there is some bias based on language skills, regardless any such bias is on a conscious level or not. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 13:09 | comment | added | Peter Jansson | Thanks, I see. It will be interesting to see if anyone has been able to distinguish reject due to some true bias from reject due to lower standard manuscripts. I think that would be difficult at best and quite subjective. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 13:04 | comment | added | posdef | @PeterJansson The "other factors" I was referring to was mostly personal relationships between authors and editors, but that's outside the scope of this question (not to mention very subjective). So to answer your question; I do know what I want numbers on, it's whether or not native speakers have a higher percentage of acceptance than their non-native speaker counterparts in general, AND for high-rep journals in particular. I am sorry I couldn't make myself clear enough. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 12:45 | comment | added | Peter Jansson | "Other factors"? You want numbers but do not know on what? I am sure there might be an editor who, for example, do not like Swedes or whatever and hence there may be a bias due to prejudice there. But from such cases to a general bias is difficult to assess without grounds. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 12:22 | comment | added | penelope | Since this is a personal example, I'm just posting it as a comment, but: I have a friend, who, as a native speaker got two set of opposite reviews on his article. First set said that the science was impeccable, but he should find somebody to help him improve his language. The second set complimented him on his language usage while saying that the science is not good enough for publication. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 10:28 | comment | added | walkmanyi | Nobody is a native speaker in the International English. I also met Englishmen, who otherwise speak almost Queens English, and who received review comments like "let a native speaker proof-read your manuscript". And I guess many of us have experience that when a native speaker enters an international English discussion, either the guy ends up misunderstood quite often, or is forced to "downgrade" the complexity and sophistication of her/his own language. So much to an advantage of native speakers in academic publishing :-). | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 10:06 | comment | added | Federico Poloni | The question asks about data and hard numbers/facts, not personal views. I am downvoting all answers given up to now, because they seem to give unsubstantiated opinions. | |
| Jan 16, 2014 at 9:55 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackAcademia/status/423755378804150272 | ||
| Jan 16, 2014 at 3:16 | answer | added | BrenBarn | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jan 15, 2014 at 16:33 | history | edited | Peter Jansson |
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| Jan 15, 2014 at 15:43 | history | edited | posdef | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
more info, tried to make the core of the question more clear
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| Jan 15, 2014 at 15:19 | answer | added | Peter Jansson | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 15, 2014 at 15:13 | answer | added | user4511 | timeline score: 6 | |
| Jan 15, 2014 at 15:03 | history | edited | Peter Jansson | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 15, 2014 at 15:00 | history | asked | posdef | CC BY-SA 3.0 |