Timeline for University rank/stature - How much does it affect one's career post-Ph.D?
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| Nov 26, 2021 at 17:17 | comment | added | Mohaqiq | @JeffE I upvoted your answer, but unfortunately, it's not true in the majority of Asian countries. For example, in Korea/China/Japan they really care about the rank of the university. Rather I will say it is the highest priority criteria. | |
| Feb 6, 2021 at 19:47 | comment | added | jasmine | +1 Great answer i really feel motivated after reading this answer | |
| Feb 21, 2014 at 12:51 | comment | added | JeffE | @posdef Not quite. I think it is easier to publish "good" papers when one is surrounded by other people who are regularly publishing "good" papers, even without any direct collaboration. Intellectual atmosphere is important. Researchers are apes; we do apey things. | |
| Feb 21, 2014 at 9:45 | comment | added | posdef | @JeffE I know that it's a rather late comment to your answer, but do you suggest/believe that it is as hard/easy to get "good papers" (what that means is a whole different question) out is independent of your affiliations? | |
| Jan 28, 2014 at 4:58 | comment | added | user10694 | My advisor 's pedigree was good but his ideas just don't sell, pedigree is really not a good selecting factor then. | |
| Jul 9, 2013 at 12:07 | comment | added | NPcompleteUser | maybe because of the "arrogance" number of crap papers is increasing exponentially every year... | |
| Aug 31, 2012 at 21:09 | comment | added | JeffE | @user1547 I don't know, but here are my guesses. (1) A relentless commitment (backed by physical, human, and monetary resources) to finding, cultivating, rewarding, and promoting excellence, at every level of the institution (research group, department, college, and campus). (2) Decades of cultural inertia. | |
| Aug 31, 2012 at 21:00 | comment | added | user1547 | @JeffE What does it take to get there? I mean how those places achieved that cloud in the 1st place? | |
| Jun 16, 2012 at 22:13 | comment | added | JeffE | @DanC: We're getting closer, but we're not there yet. | |
| Jun 16, 2012 at 14:43 | comment | added | Dan C | @JeffE - Do you feel like you have achieved that same cloud of confidence/arrogance among the theory students at UIUC? If so, what are a few of the key factors that contributed to it? If not, can you hypothesize why not? | |
| Feb 26, 2012 at 5:22 | comment | added | Fomite | +1 for the culture observations. The sincere belief in your own potential to be a rockstar, shored up by peers and faculty, is a powerful thing. | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 18:59 | vote | accept | TCSGrad | ||
| Feb 16, 2012 at 17:58 | comment | added | TCSGrad | That makes sense - it ensures both the adviser and student benefit in the areas that would help them the most from their viewpoint! | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 17:54 | comment | added | JeffE | (I quite happily report the results of my students' independent research in my reports to grant agencies, even when my name isn't on the paper.) | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 17:52 | comment | added | JeffE | This gets into standards of co-authorship, which vary significantly across fields. The standard assumption in theoretical computer science is that every co-author must make a substantial intellectual contribution to the paper; merely funding the research is not enough. This is not the standard assumption in other research communities. | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 17:50 | comment | added | TCSGrad | Well, is such a liberal attitude common amongst academics in US - since the adviser is investing effort in such a work either directly or indirectly, but not getting the credit due for it? | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 17:46 | comment | added | JeffE | Actually, lots of theory PhD students do publish without their advisors; I consider it an iron-clad graduation requirement for my own PhD students. Without at least one independent publication, people will generally think of joint work with your advisor as your advisor's results. With even one independent publication, people are suddenly much more willing to give you credit for your work, including joint work with your advisor. (I've seen this effect up close and personal, both as a student and as an advisor.) | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 14:16 | comment | added | TCSGrad | Btw, I need to ask for a clarification - what did you mean about having a good research track record "independent from your adviser", when you've just completed your Ph.D and are looking for post-doc/faculty/industry jobs ? I don't think anyone publishes without his/her adviser as a co-author before completing Ph.D, do they? | |
| Feb 16, 2012 at 8:37 | history | edited | JeffE | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 16, 2012 at 8:20 | history | answered | JeffE | CC BY-SA 3.0 |