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    Regarding consistency, people might suddenly come "out of the closet" and start using a new pronoun. Or they might be a new account, so you'd have no "past record" to go on. Just a nitpick.
    – user245382
    Commented Nov 17, 2019 at 3:01
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    "consistent" and "persistent" are key identity points here, but also impossible to judge for most users, especially new ones. "insistent" can be easily feigned by trolls, so it's dangerous to rely on that alone.
    – goldPseudo
    Commented Nov 17, 2019 at 3:22
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    Your medical standard is for gender dysphoria, and is used to determine whether medical treatment is appropriate, considering the associated risks. It's an entirely different standard from one to determine whether or not a person's nonnormative gender expression should be respected.
    – De Novo
    Commented Nov 17, 2019 at 4:50
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    "If there exists a website describing this gender expression written by someone other than the poster, take it seriously" — We still have no clear answer from moderators on whether neopronouns "aqua", "petal", "meow", "voi" etc. are allowed, and these are documented on multiple websites, including Pronoun Dressing Room mentioned in comments to another answer and Nonbinary Wiki.
    – Athari
    Commented Nov 17, 2019 at 5:20
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    So we should get back to only allow gender expressions that are normative enough and asking the victims to justify themselves just not to get the troll treatment? Wait, that wouldn't be "getting back", actually we have never been there before. Commented Nov 18, 2019 at 13:04
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    If the guide to understanding how to enforce the CoC is asking, "What would a trained medical professional do, except that people disagree with them too," then have fun with this. It sounds like it's going really well so far. Commented Nov 18, 2019 at 14:04
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    To me, I would say there is a wide difference between enforcing "mainstream" standards in answers on religious sites, and enforcing "mainstream" gender pronouns. For example, on physics SE, answers should relate to mainstream physics; because that is what the site is about. There's no on or off-topic-ness related to pronouns, so policing them based on the same standards makes no sense. If religious sites are anything like physics, those answers get deleted because they are off topic. Pronouns never have such a problem.
    – JMac
    Commented Nov 18, 2019 at 20:01
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    "Consistent" and "persistent" hit a really hard limit at this point. Google for keywords like "moongender". I'll not say anything about this, but the context where you mentioned this already implied seeking medical advice, so I can at least say that this doesn't seem to be the worst option...
    – Marco13
    Commented Nov 18, 2019 at 20:54
  • "there exists a webpage written about that sect that is not by the poster". In my (downvoted) answer to the related question Neopronoun or Trolling I suggested a criterion to use was "community: if challenged, the user should be able to point to a gender community that has already proposed use of the neopronoun and has already achieved some degree of support amongst themselves for using it; SE sites are not suitable for making those kinds of proposals and rallying support for them"
    – Raedwald
    Commented Nov 25, 2019 at 13:02
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    "someone is misidentified as a troll, apologize and make corrections": skilled trolls love being publicly accused of trolling, because then they get to expand the discussion to be about how the accuser is being the bad actor for making such a hurtful and untrue accusation. Probably best to raise a flag for a moderator to consider instead.
    – Raedwald
    Commented Nov 25, 2019 at 13:07