Creating the new off topic messages

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:17 PM

@toscho been enough time for new close reasons discussion you think?

toscho

Yes, I think so.

Rarst

looking at them... 6 total, 2 are competing recommendations (need to pick one), 3 are specificity (need to pick one), last onme is syntax errors, which I don't quite like to spend slot on...

one be one, which do we pick for recommendations to replace current?

brasofilo more extensive than mine, agreed?

toscho

yes

it has all the useful links

Rarst

editing

toscho

what do we use for too localized?

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:23 PM

"too long by 61 characters"

let me deal with this one first...

toscho

oh man

then remove the as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam

… and the last sentence

Rarst

I am reshuffling links to cut down on characters and cutting some words...

> Asking to recommend a product (plugin, theme, book, hosting provider), tool, library or off-site resource is out of scope of the site, as it to attracts opinionated answers and spam. Instead, describe the problem and what has been done so far to solve it.

0 left. works?

toscho

hehe, yes, do it

Rarst

> Since you created this reason, another moderator must approve it

toscho

done

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:28 PM

ok, specificity... I like mine because it doesn't limit to programming, but your got in first and raked up votes :)

toscho

well, then take yours

Rarst

126 chars left. maybe work in yours by mentioning programming as explicit example?

toscho

programming, HTML, CSS or JavaScript = 36 chars

Rarst

> Questions should be specific to WordPress within defined scope (merely happening in its context, such as generic PHP/JS/HTML/CSS, is insufficient). Might be better asked at other site of SE network.

toscho

looks good

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:32 PM

93 left... maybe instead of whole network make it "Stack Overflow or other site..." ?

toscho

let them learn about the network

there are also database and webmasters questions

Rarst

want to provide faster tunnel to SO :)

> Questions should be specific to WordPress within defined scope (merely happening in its context, such as generic PHP/JS/HTML/CSS, is insufficient). Might be better asked at Stack Overflow or other appropriate site of SE network.

good?

toscho

nah, let SO out, use just the network link

Rarst

your version had only SO :)

toscho

There were too lazy search in the first place, so we should help them learning that.

I didn’t vote for my suggestion. :)

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:36 PM

also statistically most of them probably would be heading to SO...

are there any other mods alive for tie breaker?..

toscho

Brady 4 hours ago

the rest … well

now we still need too localized

Rarst

mine? "with extremely narrow requirement..." I tried to lump all cases together

toscho

> Questions about syntax errors, hacked sites, or plugins and themes whose code is not accessible are off-topic because they will not help any future visitors. See [How do I ask a good question?]

Rarst

add "free work" case in some form

toscho

that should be covered by too broad

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:43 PM

I don't like "not help any future visitors", they might, they just suck for QA and most visitors

toscho

> Questions about broken, hacked, or invisible code …

Rarst

syntax error is likely under generic PHP/stuff

also we need to say something about hosting issues (which is what current slot says)

toscho

> Your question sucks.

Should cover everything we forgot.

Rarst

> Questions that are too localized (such as syntax errors, code with restricted access, hacked sites, hosting issues) are [not in scope], see [how do I ask a good question]

toscho

hm, okay

Rarst

Jul 9, 2013 1:48 PM

reordered a bit for coherence

and worked in "too localized" so acquired reflexes kick in :)

toscho

I don’t like important things in brackets, but it will do for now.

Rarst

hm, "hosting" to "hosting or support" to catch that stuff

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